English Arts Festival
Discussion Board: The Pigman and Me


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 28-Oct-2002 15:55:27
Author: Henderly, Elaine A. <elaineh@amanda.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Summarizer 



        Paul Zindel recants an adventurous time in his life when he and his family move to Travis, New York. His unstable mother invites an Italian family to share their home. A girl in his neighborhood befriends Paul. Paul also “adopts” an elderly gentleman as his surrogate father. He refers to this gentleman as his “pigman.” Jennifer, Paul, and the pigman confront problems such as Paul’s mother’s great money-making scheme, bullies and zombies in the neighborhood, and death. The pigman interjects humor throughout the story by telling jokes and serving as an optimist.
        Paul’s mother eventually learns that her daughter is turning to the Italian lady for advise on love and growing up. A fight ensues, and they are forced to sell their home. When the family packs up to move, Paul leaves behind his heart, the pigman, and the brief moment of stability he valued so greatly.

Key Points

1. A pigman is someone who offers support, love, and guidance which results in new-found learning and maturity.
2. Contrary to Paul’s dysfunctional family, he continues to thrive.
3. Symbolism is used frequently throughout the text. Some examples are: the death of the tree, the release of the 26 collies, the raining of the cockroaches, and the water-head baby.
4. Connie Vivona and Paul Zindel’s mother are extremely different. The conflicts which erupt between their families continue to add friction to Paul’s life.
Paul moves into a Polish community with only one black family living next door.
 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 28-Oct-2002 16:58:26
Author: Ball, Jasmine <jball@loganhocking.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Connector ?? Did anyone else choose this? 

Helle everyone. I just finished this novel. I really enjoyed it. It really reminded me of what it was like to be Paul's age and feel the feeling of wondering what my life would be. I think this novel really expresses the real feelings of what it's like to be young and to be confused. I think it does a better job than most novels that are completely fictional b/c it is REAL. This is Paul's memory and it's real. It really made me feel the feelings that I felt when I was that age. I remember really needed to know what my future looked like. What would I be? What school would I go to? would I have a boyfriend? What job would I have? Are all the decisions that I make OK? I think this is the thing that will stick with students the most is the idea that this is so alive and true for them too.

If someone else was the connector I'm sorry. I forget what was already taken. I'll add more tomorrow!

Jasmine 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 28-Oct-2002 20:53:12
Author: Henderly, Elaine A. <elaineh@amanda.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Connector ?? Did anyone else choose this? 

I agree that this book would be easily accepted by adolescents because of the fact that at that age many of them are trying to come to grips with whom they are and what their future holds. Zindel speaks well of these emotions and concerns through his use of characterization.  


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 07:52:37
Author: Harter, Megan <fh_mharter@seovec.org>
Subject: Who is your pigman? 

After reading the book I started thinking about how one person can truly help someone else through the rough spots, which led me to think who has been there for me. Who is your pigman? 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 09:29:28
Author: Ball, Jasmine <jball@loganhocking.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Who is your pigman? 

That's a great question. If we read this with students it would be a great assignment or discussion.

My Pigman was probably my sixth grade teacher Mr. Nusser. I think he really made me love reading in a more advanced way than I ever had. Also, he made me feel good about myself. He made me feel smart and capable. I really needed to feel that from an adult other than my parents.

jasmine 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 23:13:39
Author: Hennes, Jack <ff_jhennes@seovec.org>
Subject: Re: Who is your pigman? 

I would have to say that I have been blessed with many different pigmen at different stages in my life. Thinking back over my childhood, I can recall many instances where someone was there for me in difficult times. Some of them were teachers, others were neighbors, and some were just friends of the family. I was also blessed with a very strong family that supported me during those hardships.  


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 08:07:51
Author: Harter, Megan <fh_mharter@seovec.org>
Subject: Where will they go next? 

At the end of the book I feel for Paul. It seems that everytime the children start to get settled, they are forced to move. Where do you think they will go? What will happen to his sister? 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 09:32:20
Author: Ball, Jasmine <jball@loganhocking.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Where will they go next? 

Good question. I reminds me of the fact that his friend Jennifer didn't escape. At the end of the book when I read that it really disappointed me. I thought she would get out of that zoombie existance but she didn't. She predicted that really.

Paul and his sister I think keep getting jerked around by their mom until the become old enough to leave. Specifically where that is I don't know. They are all identical places in my mind, the big difference being that Paul's pigman was in the town described. That made all the difference.

What would have happened to Paul without his Pigman? Would he have become an author?

Jasmine 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 10:25:52
Author: Henderly, Elaine A. <elaineh@amanda.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Where will they go next? 

What a difficult question. I'm sure that Paul will continue to move from small town to small town, all the time searching for himself. Jennifer?? Although the book does state what happens to her, I had hopes for a brighter future for her. I wanted Paul and Jennifer to eventually end up together, living a dream of travel and success as adults.  


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 23:17:41
Author: Hennes, Jack <ff_jhennes@seovec.org>
Subject: Re: Where will they go next? 

I would imagine that the family continued to move regularly until it finally fell apart. Sadly, the mother was not able to create a stable life for herself or her children and had to continually run to somewhere she was unknown. So the next place will be somewhere they have not been before and where they are unknown to those around them. As for the sister, worked hard to make a better life for herself and get away from her mother or she ended up repeating the mistakes of her mother. 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 08:14:18
Author: Harter, Megan <fh_mharter@seovec.org>
Subject: Did you ever want to get out? 

One important theme in the book is the idea of getting out of the town where you were raised; not being someone who falls into the same Zombie cycle. I remember feeling this way when I was in junior high and high school, which is one reason that I went to college in Montana. Have you ever felt this way, and where was it that you wanted to go? 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 09:35:14
Author: Ball, Jasmine <jball@loganhocking.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Did you ever want to get out? 

Yes, I have felt this way and still partly do. I went to a college (OU) 30 minutes from my hometown (Logan). I never wanted to be a teacher growing up and I always knew that I wanted to live someplace other than Logan. Here I am teaching in Logan. I am disappointed sometimes when I think about it. My husband knows of this and we really make an effort to get out of town a lot. We will take a weekend trip to columbus sometimes and just spend the weekend in a hotel. We pretend we're from the city and have a lot of fun. We do things like that a lot to keep me from going crazy here.

Jasmine 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 10:50:26
Author: Henderly, Elaine A. <elaineh@amanda.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Did you ever want to get out? 

Like Paul, Jennifer, and you, I also wanted to get away from my hometown roots. I never planned on returning to my alma mater and teaching children and grandchildren of my classmates. However, my parents secretly devised a plan without my knowledge. At the age of 18, they sent me to Europe for a month. I was sooooo homesick that all I could think about was getting home. That cured me of trying to escape for life. Now I just escape on nice vacations.  


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 06-Nov-2002 14:47:11
Author: King, Rodney <tl_rking@seovec.org>
Subject: Re: Did you ever want to get out? 

Did I ever want to escape. I would have to say yes when I was younger, but it was or all the wrong reasons. One of my parents wanted to keep me close, but my liberal side took over and I left for college. I found that I liked living away, but it wasn't a rejection of the area. You know sometimes parents need to grow up to. Sounds familiar (Pigman and Me). We go out there searching for pigman. I still do. They give me a lift. That's who I want my kids to be around, as long as they know I'm willing to be leaned on too.

rodney 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 23:19:53
Author: Hennes, Jack <ff_jhennes@seovec.org>
Subject: Re: Did you ever want to get out? 

I can honestly say I never felt a need to get out. I have always enjoyed my home area and plan to remain here a very long time. That is not to say I don't travel and enjoy the rest of the world, I just have not found any place that is better than where I am now. 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 05-Nov-2002 13:33:56
Author: King, Rodney <tl_rking@seovec.org>
Subject: Re: Did you ever want to get out? 

I think we desire small escapes and large escapes. I have experience small escapes: getting out of a class, personal relationships that were frictional, etc.

Larger escapes for me would be my father and finding me connection through an ego drive. That resulted in me going away to college also. This was against my fathers wishes because of his traditional values and perhaps controlling nature.

 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 08:18:45
Author: Harter, Megan <fh_mharter@seovec.org>
Subject: Character 

Which character do you identify the most with? 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 09:37:27
Author: Ball, Jasmine <jball@loganhocking.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Character 

Probably Paul actually. It's hard for me not to identify with the character who is telling the story b/c I get so wrapped up in their experiences. I also identify with his sister, and of course Jennifer although it makes me feel horrible to identify with her. I never wanted to end up a zoombie in my hometown but I did. How horrible! This book has made me want to plan a trip again!

Jasmine 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 09:38:39
Author: Ball, Jasmine <jball@loganhocking.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Character 

Probably Paul actually. It's hard for me not to identify with the character who is telling the story b/c I get so wrapped up in their experiences. I also identify with his sister, and of course Jennifer although it makes me feel horrible to identify with her. I never wanted to end up a zoombie in my hometown but I did. How horrible! This book has made me want to plan a trip again!

Jasmine 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 09:38:44
Author: Ball, Jasmine <jball@loganhocking.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Character 

Probably Paul actually. It's hard for me not to identify with the character who is telling the story b/c I get so wrapped up in their experiences. I also identify with his sister, and of course Jennifer although it makes me feel horrible to identify with her. I never wanted to end up a zoombie in my hometown but I did. How horrible! This book has made me want to plan a trip again!

Jasmine 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 10:54:24
Author: Henderly, Elaine A. <elaineh@amanda.k12.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Character 

I identified with Paul's mother. It must have been the collies (which I love). Also, there are times in which I want to react to my children the way she reacted when they complained. I'm don't threaten suicide, however, I have threatened to run away and leave them fend for themselves. (Ha Ha) 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 23:22:18
Author: Hennes, Jack <ff_jhennes@seovec.org>
Subject: Re: Character 

If I were to identify with any character, it would have to be with the pigman. I have always felt very stable and confident of my situation in life. Not to say I haven't had my share of bumps in the road, but I don't rattle easily and I accept my limitations and the limitations of those around me. 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 29-Oct-2002 23:10:09
Author: Hennes, Jack <ff_jhennes@seovec.org>
Subject: Word Master 

1. Eletroplating, page 60, para. 2, to coat with metal. Electroplating is often done with gold.
2. Mesmerized, page 123, para. 2, hypnotize. I was mesmerized by the brilliant colors.
3. Vaccination, page 120, para. 1, the act of vaccinating. The the vaccination prevented a breakout of the disease.
4. Benevolently, page 160, para. 1, charitable nature. She benevolently assisted the stranded motorist.
5. Contradicted, page 135, para. 7, to assert the contrary, deny the truth. His actions contradicted his words.
6. peristalsis, page 83, para. 2, waves of contraction pasing along the walls of a hollow organ and forcing the contents onward. I especially liked the use of the word peristalsis as Zindel used it in the story.
7. Condemnation, page 111, para. 1, to declare to be wrong. The condemnation of the terrorist was widely accepted.
8. Pathetic, page 83, para. 2, evoking tenderness, pity, or sorrow. The boy looked so pathetic that everyone wanted to help him.
9. Suicide, page 38, para. 3, the act of killing oneself purposely. The stock broker commited suicide after the market crashed.
10. Emblazened, page 9, para. 5, to adorn with heraldic devices. The General was emblazened with many medals of honor. 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 30-Oct-2002 12:01:33
Author: King, Rodney <tl_rking@seovec.org>
Subject: connector 

I'll connect The Pigman and Me to the following.
a. The first would be my experience at being a foster parent. I have witnessed the distancing of many foster children due to their circumstances. In their searches, or placements, they eventually find their pigman. Many times this has been me or friends I know who foster. These children are at the mercy of children's services or the county courts. They eventually find the right combination to survive by relating to those individuals or that environment. Their pigman most likely are their foster parent whom they bounce off from as they mature. They encounter many disturbing happenings and intrusions (usually biological parents whom randomly come back into their lives-usually a male figure is absent).They just simply develop strategies to survive, many which are mental or dream like.

b. On a more humorous side, I can relate The Pigman and Me to learning how to use Blackboard to send messages and communicate. After struggling(and I still am), I'm beginning to learn how to do this. I can describe mystelf as being enthused, but confused. Looking at e-mails from others, I found myself not being alone. (much like Paul and Jennifer). I communciated with others and they gave me hints, but my Pigman was within the building I work at. When I'm stuck (trying to make attachments, etc.), she either knows how to fix the problem or asks her media prof. Regardless, I venture on hoping to make it through the next hurdle. Like the characters in the book, I'm young and willing to learn.

Rodney
 


Current Forum: The Pigman and Me
Date: 06-Nov-2002 14:50:08
Author: King, Rodney <tl_rking@seovec.org>
Subject: what qualities make for an escape 

I have met kids who have escaped overwhelming odds (much like Paul). What qualities must they have? Are they born with some or just the tendency? Can we predict as educators who will make it and who won't?

rodney